Rank4AI · Client plan · 15 September 2026

Palladium Competitions: picking the Messenger system back up

The comment-to-Messenger system went live in summer 2025 and it worked: people who had just commented got 84.6% of messages delivered and opened almost all of them. This plan says what has changed since, what that means for the flows already built, and how to run it on the draw cycle rather than the contact list.

Facebook Page and Messenger only ManyChat live since 30 June 2025 About 5,000 contacts (July 2025) Live draws on Facebook

Start here

The whole thing in about two minutes.

1
The system worked, and your own numbers prove it.

Messages to people who had just commented delivered at 84.6%, with 100% opened and 99.6% clicked. Of the cold contacts messaged, 71% opened the first message. No other channel you run gets close.

2
The same data shows where it broke.

Broadcasting to the stored list delivered at 49.2%, and the account carried a Meta warning that 100% of recent messages sent outside the 24-hour window were blocked. More than half of that broadcast never arrived.

3
Build on the draw cycle, not the list.

You can only message someone freely for 24 hours after they contact you. A competition site has more reasons for people to get in touch than almost any business: freebie posts, draws opening, draws closing, live draws, winners. Every one of those reopens the window.

4
The way back in after 24 hours has changed.

The 2025 plan used Sponsored Messages to reach people once the window closed. Meta withdrew them in 2024. The route still open to UK Pages is a Messenger List: people opt in to follow-up messages while their window is open, and can then be messaged again later. Every flow should ask for that opt-in.

5
The "Welcome from Skye" sequence needs rebuilding.

It sends six messages over eight days after someone opts in. Everything after the first lands outside the 24-hour window. The copy is good; the timing has to be tied to things people do rather than days on a calendar.

6
The prize is a fixed cost, so late entries carry the margin.

Margin on a draw is ticket revenue minus the prize. The prize cost locks when the draw is announced but revenue does not, so every ticket above break-even is close to pure margin. That makes the draw-closing flow worth more than any other.

7
Don't build the bot. Build the pipe.

ManyChat already does the flows. The part worth building is the connection pushing every purchase from the website back into it. Without that there is no "never played", "lapsed" or "almost bought", so the personal messages from the 2025 plan cannot run.

Part one

What changed since 2025

The 2025 plan against what is true now, and what each change means.

Area2025 planNowWhat it means
Reaching people after 24 hoursSponsored Messages at £1.50 to £3 per 1,000Gone Meta withdrew Sponsored Messages in 2024Messenger Lists instead: ask for the opt-in inside the window, then message later within Meta's frequency limits
Recurring notifications (Messenger Lists)Not usedStill open in the UK Switched off in most countries on 10 February 2026, kept for the UK, EU, Australia, Japan and KoreaNow the main way to reach a contact whose window has closed. Needs a live test in the account before anything depends on it
Message tagsAvailable for updates outside the windowMostly gone Account, post-purchase and event update tags withdrawn in 2026Only the human agent tag remains: a person, not an automation, can reply for up to 7 days
Replying to commentsKeyword reply straight into MessengerSame, with limits One private reply per comment, within 7 daysThe first message must carry a reply button. The window only opens when the person replies or taps, and an "open website" button does not count
Meta's paid Marketing MessagesDid not existNot for the UK The UK is not on the supported countries listNot an option, however it gets pitched
ManyChat pricingPlan in use in 2025Changed March 2026 Priced by active contacts a monthAround 5,000 active contacts sits in the Business tier, about $69 a month billed annually in US pricing. UK price to confirm
Welcome sequenceSix messages over eight days after opt-inBreaks the window rule Messages two to six land outside the 24 hoursRebuild so each message is triggered by something the person does (Part six)
BroadcastsWhole-list broadcasts, then A/B/C tests49.2% delivered with a Meta warningBroadcast only to people whose window is open, or to people who have opted in to marketing messages
What the system is forOpt-ins and site visits (the flow switched focus twice in July and August)Draw sell-throughThe draw-closing flow becomes the main flow, because that is where margin sits (Part three)
Purchase dataPhase 2 of the agreement, pricing to be confirmedPrerequisiteMoved to the start: none of the personal messages work without knowing who has played
ScopeMessenger, Instagram, WhatsApp and TikTokFacebook onlyThis plan covers the Facebook Page and Messenger. Other channels are left out on purpose
Projections400,000 followers × 1.5% = 6,000 new customers a month, used as an exampleReplacedNumbers get rebuilt from the real figures requested in Part eleven, not from follower counts
Part two

What your own data says

Everything here comes from the ManyChat account in summer 2025.

Screenshots from the account

Comment-triggered against broadcast

Data window shown on the screenshots: 24 June to 8 July 2025.

FlowSentDeliveredOpenedClicked
Broadcast to the whole list
Ticket discount offer
3,40549.2%99.8%94.4%
Triggered by a comment
Nightly freebie post
29884.6%100%99.6%
The single most important number

The only difference between those two rows is that the second group had just commented, so their window was open. Messaging open windows delivers at around 85%. Blasting the list delivers at around 49% and earns a policy warning.

Even so, the broadcast still produced roughly 1,580 clicks from 3,405 names. The same list by email would have produced somewhere around 100. The channel is worth protecting.

The account at the time

Facebook followers
400,000 to 500,000+ (both figures appear)
Contacts held
about 5,000
Went inactive in the fortnight
2,019
Cold contacts opening the first message
71%

Contacts going inactive at that rate is the strongest argument for the cycle over the list. A list that loses two thousand people a fortnight cannot be the thing the plan rests on.

The A/B/C broadcast test, August 2025

SegmentSentOpenedClickedOpen rateClicked, of opensClicked, of sent
A3,1521,4301,16845.4%81.6%37.1%
B2,97980672027.1%89.4%24.2%
C3,13860851819.4%85.1%16.5%
All9,2692,8492,42430.8%85.0%26.2%

Once someone opens, they click at 82% to 89% whichever segment they are in. The spread between segments is almost all in whether the message is opened, and on Messenger an unopened message is very often an undelivered one. The segment that did best is the one most likely to have had open windows. That is worth checking in the account before the next broadcast.

From the website audit, July 2025

Mobile converted at about 20%. Desktop converted at under 1% while carrying 25% of traffic. If that has not been fixed, every flow that sends people to the site on desktop is leaking.

Three things that don't add up yet

The opt-in funnel. The notes say 71% opened, 97% of those clicked and 98% of those opted in, "meaning almost 48%" opted in. Multiplied through, those rates give about 67%, not 48%. One of the four figures is wrong.

Open rates. The screenshots show 99.8% and 100% opened; the A/B/C test shows 30.8%. They are probably measured differently (of delivered against of sent), but it needs confirming before either is quoted.

Dates. The screenshots show a 3,405-message broadcast in the 24 June to 8 July window, but the change log has ManyChat set up on 30 June and the first broadcast on 30 July. Either the screenshot dates or the log need checking.

Part three

Draw economics

Why an extra entry is worth what it is, and which flow that makes most valuable.

The margin on a competition is ticket revenue minus the cost of the prize. Illustratively: sell £100 of tickets against a £75 prize and the draw makes £25.

The prize cost is fixed the moment the draw is announced. The revenue is not.

Sell-throughTicket revenuePrize costMargin
100%£100£75£25
85%£85£75£10
75%£75£75£0
60%£60£75-£15

Illustrative ratios only. Palladium's real prize-to-ticket ratio is one of the figures requested in Part eleven.

A draw does not fail gently: it crosses from profitable to loss-making over a narrow band of sell-through. And every ticket sold above break-even is close to pure margin, because the prize does not get more expensive. Entries landing late in a draw that is most of the way to filling are worth several times those landing early.

Which changes the order of the plan

The 2025 flows were built around opt-ins and site visits. On the economics, the draw-closing flow is the money flow: it pushes extra entries into draws already running, against a prize already paid for, at the point where each ticket is worth most.

The "Paradise isn't getting the love it deserves" message from the 2025 plan is exactly this, and it should be one of the first things switched on.

Part four

What works on Facebook now

Checked against Meta and ManyChat documentation, September 2026. Several things that were true, or got pitched, in 2025 are not true now.

What can start a conversation

TriggerWorks?Notes
Comment on a Page postReliableKeyword or any comment, on a chosen post or any post. Published, scheduled and boosted posts. Not in Groups, not on reposts, and comments made before the flow was switched on are not picked up.
Comment during a Facebook LiveYesThe draws already run live on Facebook
Comment on an adYes, with limitsOnly relevant if ads are in scope
Messenger keywordReliableAny incoming message containing a word
Conversation startersYesUp to four tappable questions, shown only to people who have never messaged the Page
Default replyReliableThe FAQ catch-all, already built in 2025
m.me links, ref links and QR codesReliableCan carry which draw, post or email they came from
Ads that open MessengerYes, with limitsOnly if ads are in scope
Facebook Story reply or reactionNo triggerWhether a Story reply lands as an ordinary message the default reply would catch is untested
Page follow or likeNo
Reactions or likes on postsNoA reaction gives no route to message someone
SharesNoAnd rewarding shares breaks Meta's promotion rules (Part ten)
Website chat pluginGoneRetired in 2024. m.me links do the same job
The rule that matters most: one reply, then they have to tap

Meta allows one private message per comment, sent within 7 days of the comment. That message does not open the 24-hour window on its own. The window opens only when the person replies or taps a reply button, and an "open website" button does not count.

The 2025 "Yes, notify me next time!" button did this correctly. Every trigger flow keeps that step.

Reaching someone after the window closes

RouteUK Page?Notes
Messaging inside the 24 hoursYesAny message, promotional included, after they message, tap or react
Messenger Lists (recurring notifications)YesThe UK is one of the countries Meta kept when it switched these off elsewhere on 10 February 2026. The opt-in has to be asked for inside the window. Frequency is limited. Test in the account first
Human agent tagManual onlyA person replying by hand, up to 7 days after the customer's last message. No automated messages
Broadcast channel on the PageUnconfirmedMeta offers these to larger Pages. UK availability not confirmed, and ManyChat cannot post to one
Meta's paid Marketing MessagesNoThe UK is not a supported country
Sponsored MessagesNoWithdrawn in 2024
Update message tagsNoWithdrawn in 2026
Tested, not assumed

Three things get tested in the account in week one before any flow depends on them: Messenger List opt-in and sending from a UK Page, whether a Story reply reaches ManyChat, and whether a broadcast channel is available.

Part five

What you already have

Everything built in 2025, and what happens to each piece.

Built in 2025VerdictWhy
Freebie keyword flows ("comment your favourite colour")KeepThis is the flow that delivered 84.6%. The nightly freebie is the cheapest engine for reopening the window every day.
Default reply and FAQ answersKeep, reviewAnswers still need checking against how the site works now (wallet, instant wins, claims).
Secret competition link flowKeepGives people a reason to message, which opens the window.
Customer tagging and segmentsKeepBecomes the base the purchase data attaches to.
"Welcome from Skye" sequence (six messages, eight days)RebuildGood copy, wrong timing. Message one stays as the opt-in reply. The rest become replies to things people do (Part six).
Whole-list broadcastsStop as the main tactic49.2% delivered and a policy warning. Open a window first, then send.
Sponsored Messages for re-engagementNot availableWithdrawn by Meta in 2024. Replaced by a Messenger List opt-in built into every flow.
SKYE10 code, charity page and "nominate a cause" buttonsCheckThese were marked "needs set up on site" in 2025. Confirm they exist before any flow links to them.
Facebook GroupPage posts onlyAutomation runs on Page posts, not in a Group. The Group is where the community is, so trigger posts go on the Page and get shared into the Group.
Before anything is switched back on

Check the account for any live Meta or ManyChat warnings, the delivery rate over the last 90 days, and which flows are still running. If the eight-day sequence or scheduled broadcasts have been running all year, they may have been sending into closed windows the whole time.

Part six

The flows

Two layers. Triggers start conversations; behavioural flows work the people already in the system.

Layer one: triggers

#TriggerWhat ManyChat does
1Comment on a freebie or draw postPublic reply, private reply with a button, tap opens the window, offers the Messenger List opt-in, tags the contact
2Messenger List message, plus a "last chance" postClosing alert to people who opted in, comment keyword for everyone else, tags closing responders
3Comment during a Live drawConfirms, teases the next draw, offers the opt-in while the whole audience is watching
4Messenger keyword, conversation starters, default replyAnswers instantly, hands to a person when there is no match, tags by question type
5Winner m.me linkThanks the winner and asks for a short video
XAll of the aboveTags every contact by source, draw and keyword, and sends it to Palladium's own database
Flow 1

Draw opens and the nightly freebie

Trigger: comment on a Page post

The flow that delivered 84.6% in 2025, kept as it is. The nightly freebie gives people a reason to comment every day, which keeps windows opening every day rather than weekly.

The one addition: every flow ends by offering the Messenger List opt-in ("want a heads-up before this one closes?"), so the person can still be reached after the 24 hours.

Flow 2

Draw closing

Trigger: Messenger List message and a comment post · the money flow

Facebook has no Story trigger, so this runs in two halves. People who opted in to closing alerts get a Messenger List message. Everyone else gets a "last chance" Page post with a comment keyword, which reopens their window.

On the economics this is the most valuable flow in the plan. It drives entries into a draw already running, against a prize already paid for.

Flow 3

The live draw

Trigger: comment during a Live

The draws already run live on Facebook, so the moment exists and is unused. Comments trigger a message confirming and teasing the next draw. It is the best moment to collect Messenger List opt-ins, because the most engaged players are all there at once.

Flow 4

Answering questions

Trigger: keyword, conversation starters, default reply

The default reply and FAQ answers built in 2025 are the base. Add conversation starters for the four questions asked most. When there is no match, a person picks it up, and has 7 days to reply by hand.

Someone typing "how does this actually work" has already decided they are interested. Instant, complete answers at 11pm on a Sunday are a sales mechanism, not admin.

Flow 5

Winner social proof

Trigger: m.me link sent with the win notification

Shares cannot trigger a flow, and rewarding them breaks Meta's rules. Instead, the win email or text carries an m.me link that opens Messenger. The flow thanks the winner and asks for a short video. The moment someone has just won is when they are most likely to say yes.

Layer two: behavioural flows

These fire on what someone does or fails to do once they are in the system. None of them are possible without the purchase data connection in Part eight.

Flow A

In-window follow-up: opted in but did not move

Cheapest improvement in the build

Someone taps the button and then nothing happens. You have 24 hours and most setups use it once.

TimingMessage
+2 hoursSoft check, did the link work
+8 hoursSocial proof, last winner, tickets remaining
+20 hoursLast call before the window shuts

This is where the best of the "Welcome from Skye" copy goes: the "is this for real?" explanation and the winners feed fit the +8 hour slot.

Flow B

Never played

Trust and mechanics

In the contact list, never bought. The message is how it works, is it legitimate, previous winners, what happens if you win, and the charity story. SKYE10 belongs here, if it exists on the site.

Flow C

Played, still active

Frequency and basket size

Bundle offers, new draw alerts, their favourite prize category. The 2025 themed-code approach ("you have been chosen", two bundle prices with named codes) fits here.

Flow D

Played, lapsed

Win-back, personal

"I'm feeling friendly today. Giving a few lovely ladies, yes that includes you, 10% off to come back and play." Aimed at a segment, never broadcast to everyone.

Flow E

Almost bought

Highest-converting segment

Clicked through, landed on the site, did not complete. Needs the website to send the abandoned basket back into ManyChat. It was in the 2025 agreement as "cart abandonment notifications into messaging platforms" and was never built.

Flow F

Underperforming draw rescue

Direct margin protection

"Paradise isn't getting the love it deserves so I'm doing 10% off just for you. Don't tell the others." A draw that is underselling gets pushed to a chosen segment before it crosses break-even.

Flow G

Going-quiet catch

Cheaper than win-back

2,019 contacts went inactive in one fortnight. A flow that fires before someone lapses costs far less than recovering them afterwards.

Flow H

Post-purchase

Retention starts at purchase one

A first-time buyer gets a short sequence aimed at a second purchase. A purchase does not open the Messenger window by itself, so the first message has to invite a reply ("tap to get your ticket numbers here") that does.

The constraint on every Layer two flow

Segments B, D and G are by definition people who have not been in touch recently, which is exactly the 49.2% case.

So none of these can be a straight broadcast. Each reaches people one of two ways: through a Messenger List opt-in collected earlier, or a window-opener first, such as a comment prompt aimed at that segment, then the real message inside the open window at around 85% rather than 49%.

Part seven

The plan

Four phases over roughly twelve weeks.

Phase 0 · week 1

Account check

Before sending anything

Warnings on the account, delivery rate for the last 90 days, how many contacts are still active, which flows and sequences are still running, and what the ManyChat plan costs now. Switch off anything sending outside the window.

Phase 1 · weeks 1 to 2

Relaunch on the next freebie

Prove the numbers again

One freebie post, the keyword flow, the opt-in button, the in-window follow-up. Measure five things: comments, delivery rate, open rate, opt-in rate and click-through to the site. That gives a clean 2026 baseline against the 2025 figures.

Phase 2 · weeks 3 to 6

The draw cycle and the data connection

The actual product

Build the trigger flows around the rhythm the business already has, with the draw-closing flow first. Rebuild the welcome sequence. Connect purchase data from the website into ManyChat.

Phase 3 · weeks 6 to 12

Segmentation and the personal messages

Where the 2025 ideas finally run

With purchase data flowing back, the Layer two flows switch on: never played, active, lapsed, almost bought, draw rescue, going quiet, post-purchase.

Part eight

What we build

The recommendation and the reasoning.

OptionVerdictWhy
ManyChat, already in placeKeepIt absorbs Meta's changes for you. Now priced by active contacts: around 5,000 is the Business tier, about $69 a month billed annually in US pricing. UK price to confirm
Purchase data connection, website to ManyChatBuild this, phase 2Small piece of work, and a prerequisite for every personal message
Fully custom Messenger integrationNoApp review, ongoing maintenance, and you inherit every change Meta ships
AI assistant answering questionsPhase 3In the 2025 agreement. Worth it once the FAQ answers are right, because "is this legit, how does it work" is what stands between a sceptic and a first entry

Don't build the bot, build the pipe

What is worth building is the connection pushing every purchase between the website and ManyChat: which draw, how many tickets, when, and whether a basket was abandoned. ManyChat only sees Facebook behaviour, so without purchase data there is no segmentation, and the personal messages that made the 2025 plan different cannot run.

If Klaviyo is still in use, it is the obvious place for that data to meet email, which the 2025 agreement already named.

Part nine

What we're not doing

Stated deliberately, so nobody expects them.

Sponsored Messages

Not available. Withdrawn by Meta in 2024. Any price per thousand messages describes a channel that no longer exists.

Meta's paid Marketing Messages

Not available to UK businesses. The UK is not on Meta's supported countries list.

Share to enter, or tag a friend

Against Meta's rules. Comment to enter is fine.

Messages triggered by likes, reactions or follows

Not possible. None of them give a route to message someone.

Broadcasting to the whole list as the main tactic

Delivered 49.2% and triggered a warning. Broadcasts have a place, but only into open windows or to people who have opted in to marketing messages.

Automation inside the Facebook Group

Not supported. Trigger posts go on the Page.

Projections from follower counts

Not credible. The 2025 "6,000 new customers a month" was an example built on an assumed 1.5%. The numbers get rebuilt from real figures.

Instagram, WhatsApp and TikTok

Out of scope for this plan. Facebook first, and only once the Messenger system is running cleanly.

Part ten

Compliance

Each needs sign-off from Palladium's own advisers.

Part eleven

Questions for Palladium

The account first, then the figures that turn this into money.

The account

  1. Is ManyChat still live, and on which plan? What has been running since August 2025.
  2. Any warnings on the account? Meta or ManyChat, current or since last year.
  3. Contacts now, and delivery rate over the last 90 days. The 2026 starting point.
  4. Page followers and Group members today. The 2025 documents say both 400,000 and 500,000+.
  5. Were Sponsored Messages ever run, and have any Messenger List opt-ins been collected? Decides whether anyone is reachable outside the window today.
  6. The three figures that don't add up in Part two. The opt-in funnel, the open-rate definitions and the screenshot dates.

The commercial figures

FigureTheir numberWhat it lets us work out
Cost per acquisitionIf a Messenger-acquired customer costs less than the current CPA, that is the business case in one line.
Average order valueWhat a click out of Messenger is worth, and which bundle the offer should push.
Spend over three monthsThe value of a recovered lapsed player.
Length of retentionWhere players drop off, so the going-quiet flow fires before that point.
Margin on a competitionWhat one extra late entry is worth. Turns the draw-closing flow into a pound figure.
New customers per monthThe base this is measured against.

The business

  1. Draw cadence, and whether instant wins run continuously. Decides how often the closing flow fires.
  2. Is the nightly freebie still running? It is the cheapest window-opener there is.
  3. Has the desktop checkout been fixed? Under 1% conversion on 25% of traffic in July 2025.
  4. Is Klaviyo still in use? Decides where the purchase data connection points.
  5. Facebook ads: budget, and who runs them? Decides whether ads that open a Messenger conversation are in scope.
  6. Were SKYE10, the charity page and "nominate a cause" ever built? The welcome copy links to them.
If only one thing gets done

Run the account check, switch off anything sending outside the window, then relaunch on the next freebie with the in-window follow-up. It costs almost nothing and gives a clean 2026 baseline against 2025.